[melkjug-dev] "RSS"?

[Joshua Bronson]

Phil noticed that the link to get a feed for a preset points to ...atom.xml
(which in fact is atom) but the link text reads "RSS" (doubtless because
"RSS" has become synonymous with "feed" both to people who don't know the
difference and to people who do know but don't care to split hairs in the
wrong context). Melkjug isn't the only software perpetuating this ambiguity
-- Safari's blue "RSS" button in the address bar comes to mind -- but the
question is do we care? My personal inclination is to change it to "Atom" or
"Feed" but if this sacrifices popular understanding for correctness it's not
worth it.

[Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock]

Post by Joshua Bronson
Phil noticed that the link to get a feed for a preset points to ...atom.xml
(which in fact is atom) but the link text reads "RSS" (doubtless because
"RSS" has become synonymous with "feed" both to people who don't know the
difference and to people who do know but don't care to split hairs in the
wrong context). Melkjug isn't the only software perpetuating this ambiguity
-- Safari's blue "RSS" button in the address bar comes to mind -- but the
question is do we care? My personal inclination is to change it to "Atom" or
"Feed" but if this sacrifices popular understanding for correctness it's not
worth it.

+1 to changing the name. I was tricked by this the other day while trying to
pull my jug's feed into a WordPress install using the KB Advanced RSS Widget. I
was wondering why it wasn't working until I actually looked at the feed and
realized it wasn't RSS :)

Also, I take it this means Melkjug doesn't currently expose an RSS feed?

-Nick


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[Luke Tucker]

I'm fine with making this more correct, so long as there is some
indication that it is a feed -- atom is not yet as synonymous with
feed I think.

Also, yes, there is currently only an atom feed exposed.

- Luke

Post by Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock

Post by Joshua Bronson
Phil noticed that the link to get a feed for a preset points
to ...atom.xml
(which in fact is atom) but the link text reads "RSS" (doubtless because
"RSS" has become synonymous with "feed" both to people who don't know the
difference and to people who do know but don't care to split hairs in the
wrong context). Melkjug isn't the only software perpetuating this ambiguity
-- Safari's blue "RSS" button in the address bar comes to mind -- but the
question is do we care? My personal inclination is to change it to "Atom" or
"Feed" but if this sacrifices popular understanding for correctness it's not
worth it.

+1 to changing the name. I was tricked by this the other day while trying to
pull my jug's feed into a WordPress install using the KB Advanced RSS Widget. I
was wondering why it wasn't working until I actually looked at the feed and
realized it wasn't RSS :)
Also, I take it this means Melkjug doesn't currently expose an RSS feed?
-Nick
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[Joshua Bronson]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock <

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
Phil noticed that the link to get a feed for a preset points to

...atom.xml

Post by Joshua Bronson
(which in fact is atom) but the link text reads "RSS" (doubtless because
"RSS" has become synonymous with "feed" both to people who don't know the
difference and to people who do know but don't care to split hairs in the
wrong context). Melkjug isn't the only software perpetuating this

ambiguity

Post by Joshua Bronson
-- Safari's blue "RSS" button in the address bar comes to mind -- but the
question is do we care? My personal inclination is to change it to "Atom"

or

Post by Joshua Bronson
"Feed" but if this sacrifices popular understanding for correctness it's

not

Post by Joshua Bronson
worth it.

+1 to changing the name. I was tricked by this the other day while trying to
pull my jug's feed into a WordPress install using the KB Advanced RSS Widget. I
was wondering why it wasn't working until I actually looked at the feed and
realized it wasn't RSS :)
Also, I take it this means Melkjug doesn't currently expose an RSS feed?

Correct, we publish atom only at the moment. Is this a request for RSS?

[Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock]

Post by Joshua Bronson
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock <

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
Phil noticed that the link to get a feed for a preset points to

...atom.xml

Post by Joshua Bronson
(which in fact is atom) but the link text reads "RSS" (doubtless because
"RSS" has become synonymous with "feed" both to people who don't know the
difference and to people who do know but don't care to split hairs in the
wrong context). Melkjug isn't the only software perpetuating this

ambiguity

Post by Joshua Bronson
-- Safari's blue "RSS" button in the address bar comes to mind -- but the
question is do we care? My personal inclination is to change it to "Atom"

or

Post by Joshua Bronson
"Feed" but if this sacrifices popular understanding for correctness it's

not

Post by Joshua Bronson
worth it.

+1 to changing the name. I was tricked by this the other day while trying to
pull my jug's feed into a WordPress install using the KB Advanced RSS Widget. I
was wondering why it wasn't working until I actually looked at the feed and
realized it wasn't RSS :)
Also, I take it this means Melkjug doesn't currently expose an RSS feed?

Correct, we publish atom only at the moment. Is this a request for RSS?

Yes, please, having RSS would be great! :)

-Nick


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[Joshua Bronson]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock <

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Nicholas Bergson-Shilcock <

Excerpts from Joshua Bronson's message of Wed Mar 11 23:18:12 -0400

Post by Joshua Bronson
Phil noticed that the link to get a feed for a preset points to

...atom.xml

Post by Joshua Bronson
(which in fact is atom) but the link text reads "RSS" (doubtless

because

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
"RSS" has become synonymous with "feed" both to people who don't know

the

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
difference and to people who do know but don't care to split hairs in

the

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
wrong context). Melkjug isn't the only software perpetuating this

ambiguity

Post by Joshua Bronson
-- Safari's blue "RSS" button in the address bar comes to mind -- but

the

Post by Joshua Bronson

Post by Joshua Bronson
question is do we care? My personal inclination is to change it to

"Atom"

Post by Joshua Bronson

or

Post by Joshua Bronson
"Feed" but if this sacrifices popular understanding for correctness

it's

Post by Joshua Bronson

not

Post by Joshua Bronson
worth it.

+1 to changing the name. I was tricked by this the other day while

trying

Post by Joshua Bronson

to
pull my jug's feed into a WordPress install using the KB Advanced RSS Widget. I
was wondering why it wasn't working until I actually looked at the feed

and

Post by Joshua Bronson

realized it wasn't RSS :)
Also, I take it this means Melkjug doesn't currently expose an RSS

feed?

Post by Joshua Bronson
Correct, we publish atom only at the moment. Is this a request for RSS?

Yes, please, having RSS would be great! :)

Created a ticket for it at http://trac.openplans.org/melkjug/ticket/391.